moment of crisis

[dancingyel]

i'm never gonna meet someone who agrees with me on the things that are non-negotiable. blah. my moments of feeling down have been few and far between this summer, thankfully, but here's one now. at least i have something to do tonight, and hopefully it'll raise my mood.

it's been interesting, this last month. i've had some good conversations with people and i'm discovering the ares in my thinking that need to be articulated better. there's so much that makes sense to me to believe, but i don't have a good logical way of explaining it to others. i guess part of it is that some beliefs are emotional, not logical, but i still think i should be better at explaining myself and what i'm thinking. i also need to keep reminding myself that just because someone is better than me at being logical, it still doesn't mean that what they think is right and what i think isn't. there are things where i don't need to second-guess myself.

i'm gonna call someone now...i need a friendly voice on the phone.

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i know what you need....

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Re: i know what you need....

[dancingyel.livejournal.com]

awww...you rock. *hugs and snuggles* i got lots of hugs yesterday, so i feel much more normal again.

[fireopal.livejournal.com]

"...just because someone is better than me at being logical, it still doesn't mean that what they think is right..."

Oh my goodness - I seriously had to learn this big time when arguing with Kevin. He's so damn good at arguing and being logical that I would get so frustrated and turned around! I'm a little better at either saying what I think better, or just saying "well I don't know, maybe you're right but I just *think* it's my way." But yes. I know how you feel about that point.

See you tonight =)

[musicangel687.livejournal.com]

I'm totally with ya on the whole logical arguing thing. I hate trying to explain how I feel to someone who just happens to have a great way of trapping me in what I've said or making me seem hypocritical. It totally frustrates me too! Grrrr. Hope you're doing better though!

[newerabooks.livejournal.com]

Wow, everyone has really picked up on your "logical" frustration. It's exactly what I want to comment on, too. I have seen it happen to people (and me) several times, especially when they are enthusiastically describing an idea that wasn't originally theirs but that they have started to adhere to. In that kind of situation they feel they can't entirely remember the logic and argument and backing that persuaded the original thinker, and them by extension, and it upsets them to not be able to adequately defend the point, thereby letting down the thinker in abstentia.

I must admit, though, that I've sometimes been on the other end, arguing against points made by people who have a hard time "logically" defending them. I like to think that I back down eventually out of sympathy for the defender's frustration and inarticulateness. I hope my co-arguers would go back to their original source and rethink how it either answers my arguments or perhaps has some gaps that I was able to point out for them. I know that one time, after I inadequately attempted to describe the concept of the Trinity to a Jewish friend, I went and asked my mom and some other Christians how they would describe the Father/Son/Holy Spirit relationship so that I could explain it better myself if I ever needed to again.

[dancingyel.livejournal.com]

i kinda talked to you about this already, but yeah, kevin is definitely one of the people who argues far more logically than i do. i never took it personally with him (good thing, or we wouldn't get along, i'm sure!), but i still have to remind myself periodically that i don't have to convince anyone else to agree with me in order to believe whatever i believe.

[dancingyel.livejournal.com]

yes, exactly! sometimes logical people say things that i agree with, but with qualifiers...and then, if i don't specify the qualifiers right away, i get trapped in a contradictory point...it's very annoying. i'm doing a lot better, though...it was a passing bad mood. i'm gonna have to work on the logical thing, still.

[dancingyel.livejournal.com]

i want to answer, but i'm running off to do errands...but i'll answer soon, i promise!