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i will be glad when the elections are done. still, it boggles the mind that so many people are supporting prop 8 in CA. i have such a hard time figuring out why, other than baseless hatred, this is any sort of issue.

ETA: there are certainly people who don't vote yes on prop 8 due to outright hatred. however, the end result is the same. is the intent more important than the outcome? i don't think so.

Date: 2008-11-04 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragen.livejournal.com
Have you read Doug Muder's "Red Family, Blue Family"? It gives one plausible explanation. Perhaps another explanation is the widespread sense that sex is unclean and therefore immoral, like smoking or eating at McDonald's or eating non-organically-grown vegetables, except under special circumstances. And, of course, there are those folks who feel that they (and, by extension, everyone else) need strong societal support to stay on the straight and narrow and not, say, snort coke, bang their secretary, and have buttsex with transvestites. There is strong evidence that strong societal support for some code of morality reduces the number of people who deviate from it. Of course, there's a lot of tension between that and our values of a liberal, pluralistic society.

I think hatred accounts for only a small fraction of the folks opposed to same-sex marriage, although of course they tend to be particularly vocal.

Date: 2008-11-04 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shakauvm.livejournal.com
The main reason to vote Yes on 8 is because of the rather horrid side effects same-sex legalization has caused in CA and Massachussetts:
1) Catholic Charities, which have been helping babies find adoptive parents for hundreds of years, were banned from the adoption process because they refused to let gay families adopt (in Massachusetts)
2) Christians in the government in CA have been fired for refusing to perform same sex marriages against their conscience.
3) A Christian doctor has been successfully sued for refusing to artificially inseminate a lesbian, even though he used the conscience clause and referred her to another doctor. The lesbian, though, wanted to "make an example out of him".

Among other issues, such as churches being sued for not allowing gay pastors, the SF elementary school taking their kids to a lesbian wedding (as a teachable moment), kindergarteners signing "Allies of the LGBTA" cards, parents not having the option to pull their kids from such events, etc.

A no vote is discrimination against Christians, essentially.

Personally, I feel that the government should not be involved in the wedding business in the slightest. It pissed me off that I had to get permission from the county in order to participate in a religious ceremony with Macy this last weekend. Who gave them that right??

In my perfect world, the government wouldn't have anything to do with marriage at all, except perhaps keeping records.

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